FAMILY-Sober Family

Last night late, I was browsing my tree and thought I would work on the Sobers and find death dates for those with blanks. First one was Alexander Jordan Sober. After a little bit of snooping and research I found him in a stack of papers I printed up back in 2002! I guess when I was new to this and had a printer with an endless supply of ink LOL Had wife Sarah Jane Gearhart, two daughters Martha no dates and Stella b 1869. Well I entered them in the tree- no information popped up for the wife Sarah nor for Martha but a death certificate for Stella came up that she died in 1962. wow over 90 years old! I had someone from a group on facebook with RAOGK post the death certificate . Of course it lists parents unknown! Informant Clyde Davis. Has her listed as buried in Mount Vernon Cemetery in Riverside Northumberland Pennsylvania. searched for other Sobers there and Alexander Jordan was there. died in 1876. More research and the wife Sarah claimed veteran pension. But in 1880 the two girls are in an orphan school Mount Joy Soldiers Orphans School in Mount Joy Pennsylvania. I reasoned that Sarah Jane must have died as well before 1880.

so here are the details from censuses and some images. I was able to flesh out Sarah Jane and her parents and brothers and sisters but they do not show up on findagrave.
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1880 census at Mount Joy
1880 Schedules of Defective,Dependent and Deliinquent classes.
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Annie L Satezahm     Other     F     15     Pennsylvania, United States
Amos Steele     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Heny Sourbeer     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
William Sourbeer     Other     M     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Hellen Siple     Other     F     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Henry M Shaar     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
William N Shaar     Other     M     11     Pennsylvania, United States
Grace F Sober     Other     F     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Eliza Schweitzer     Other     F     9     Pennsylvania, United States
Stella Sober     Other     F     11     Pennsylvania, United States
Martha G Sober     Other     F     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Robert D Smith     Other     M     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Annie Schweitzer     Other     F     6     Pennsylvania, United States
Laura E Sheaffer     Other     F     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Margaret A Shears     Other     F     8     Pennsylvania, United States
Sam W Sierfred     Other     M     13     Pennsylvania, United States
George H Sierfred     Other     M     9     Pennsylvania, United States
Willi C Thomas     Other     M     11     Pennsylvania, United States
Heister L Thomas     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Charles H Thomas     Other     M     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWFY-8BJ : 15 July 2017), Stella Sober in household of Annie L Satezahm, Mount Joy, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district ED 133, sheet 266B, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1141; FHL microfilm 1,255,141.

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.
United States Census, 1880
District     ED 133
Sheet Number and Letter     266B
Household ID     9824658
Affiliate Name     The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number     T9
Affiliate Film Number     1141
GS Film Number     1255141
Digital Folder Number     005162260
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1910 Martha and Stella with a servant, a boarder and 2 hired hands.
1910
Name     Stella Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1910
Event Place     Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     40
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Relationship to Head of Household     Sister
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Sister
Birth Year (Estimated)     1870
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     A
Sheet Number     3
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Martha Sober     Head     F     42     Pennsylvania
Stella Sober     Sister     F     40     Pennsylvania
Clara Nagle     Servant     F     45     Pennsylvania
Ross Nagle     Boarder     M     8     Pennsylvania
Charles Vaudling     Hired man     M     23     Pennsylvania
George Vaudling     Hired man     M     18     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGHT-XS7 : accessed 30 June 2018), Stella Sober in household of Martha Sober, Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 103, sheet 3A, family 46, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 1337; FHL microfilm 1,375,350.

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.
United States Census, 1910
District     ED 103
Sheet Number and Letter     3A
Household ID     46
Affiliate Name     The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number     T624
Affiliate Film Number     1337
GS Film Number     1375350
Digital Folder Number     004973404
Image Number     00732

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1920 Stella at the bottom of a page alone no details.

1920
Stella at bottom of page not sure if Martha's name is faded at top or not
Name     Stella Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1920
Event Place     Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     50
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Can Read     Yes
Can Write     Yes
Relationship to Head of Household     Sister
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Sister
Birth Year (Estimated)     1870
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     B
Sheet Number     7
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFRK-FG3 : accessed 30 June 2018), Stella Sober, Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing ED 69, sheet 7B, line 98, family 33, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1559; FHL microfilm 1,821,559.


so I search for martha alone and get this
1920 census
Name     Martha Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1920
Event Place     Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     52
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Can Read     Yes
Can Write     Yes
Relationship to Head of Household     Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Head
Own or Rent     Rent
Birth Year (Estimated)     1868
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     A
Sheet Number     2
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFRK-GDF : accessed 30 June 2018), Martha Sober, Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing ED 69, sheet 2A, line 14, family 33, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1559; FHL microfilm 1,821,559.

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1930 I find them both together with a servant William Crabbe

1930

Stella B Sober
United States Census, 1930
Name     Stella B Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1930
Event Place     Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     61
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Relationship to Head of Household     Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Head
Birth Year (Estimated)     1869
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     A
Sheet Number     12
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Stella B Sober     Head     F     61     Pennsylvania
Martha G Sober     Sister     F     62     Pennsylvania
William Crabb     Servant     M     62     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHSQ-631 : accessed 30 June 2018), Stella B Sober, Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 78, sheet 12A, line 15, family 272, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 2027; FHL microfilm 2,341,761.

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1940 they are together alone
1940
Name     Martha G Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1940
Event Place     Middle Paxton Township, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Sex     Female
Age     70
Marital Status     Single
Race (Original)     White
Race     White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Head
Relationship to Head of Household     Head
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Birth Year (Estimated)     1870
Last Place of Residence     Same House
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Martha G Sober     Head     F     70     Pennsylvania
Stella B Sober     Sister     F     68     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ8P-C5J : accessed 30 June 2018), Martha G Sober, Middle Paxton Township, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 22-92, sheet 19B, line 44, family 389, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA digital publication T627. Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790 - 2007, RG 29. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012, roll 3484.

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so then I look for more details on the father Alexander Jordan Sober
Civil War veteran and Sarah J applying for pension in 1877

Civil War Alexander Jordan Sober
Name     Jordan Sober
Also Known As Name     Alexander J. Sober
Event Type     Military Service
Military Beginning Rank     Private
Military Final Rank     Corporal
Military Side     Union
State or Military Term     Pennsylvania
Military Unit     52nd Regiment, Pennsylvania Infantry
Military Company     D
Note     Original filed under Alexander J./Sober
Affiliate Film Number     115
Citing this Record

"United States Civil War Soldiers Index, 1861-1865," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSS1-XYD : 4 December 2014), Jordan Sober, Corporal, Company D, 52nd Regiment, Pennsylvania Infantry, Union; citing NARA microfilm publication M554 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 115; FHL microfilm 882,450.


1877 alexander sarah widow file-

Alexander J Sober
United States General Index to Pension Files
Name     Alexander J Sober
Event Type     Pension
Event Date     1871
Beneficiary's Name     Sarah J Sober

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Finally find something with Sarah and her many family members
1850 census Originally she was listed with birth year 1850 so that stymied searches for a bit until I wised up!

1850
Sarah Gearhart
United States Census, 1850
Name     Sarah Gearhart
Event Type     Census
Event Year     1850
Event Place     Packer, Carbon, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     2
Race     White
Birth Year (Estimated)     1848
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
House Number     27
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Joel Gearhart         M     34     Pennsylvania
Matilda Gearhart         F     30     Pennsylvania
Levi Gearhart         M     12     Pennsylvania
Harriet Gearhart         F     10     Pennsylvania
William Gearhart         M     9     Pennsylvania
Daniel Gearhart         M     7     Pennsylvania
James Gearhart         M     6     Pennsylvania
Martha Gearhart         F     5     Pennsylvania
Sarah Gearhart         F     2     Pennsylvania
Lewis Gearhart         M     1     Pennsylvania
Aaron Wetzell         M     25     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M44Y-L73 : 12 April 2016), Sarah Gearhart in household of Joel Gearhart, Packer, Carbon, Pennsylvania, United States; citing family 27, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

There are Wetzels in my tree as well wondering if Aaron is related.

that for some other day

here are the documents

Stella Sober Death certificate

Stella and Martha in Orphans School
1880

 no census for 1890 of course those were lost in a fire, but none for 1900 either.

1910

1920 Martha 513 N Second Street Harrisburg
line 14

Stella on another page at the bottom 1920 census

1930 census

1940 census

father's war pension

Martha's death certificate 1942

Two news items after Martha's death

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that's it for now no children born to Martha or Stella that I know of.

RANTS-Favors

A few days ago I was contacted by an acquaintance to drive him back from an eye appointment  in Mashpee. I asked what time? appointment was 2 pm. So, many messages back and forth it was agreed he would pick me up here at 12:45pm to give plenty of time for traffic.

Day arrives and it is pouring rain. I am mulling over all the worst case scenarios and the solutions. Even down to renting a car here and driving over to pick him up. I planned on stopping at AC Moore while he was at Home Depot or Jo Ann Fabrics while he was in Perry's for fire extinguishers.  He did the Home Depot thing last night so.
It was agreed he would drive down and I would drive back and that I could choose the route to take back. ha ha ha

I messaged him this morning to make sure the driver's seat was easily adjustable- I am 5'4" he is 6'7". Funny response from him- yes the springs are broken but if you grab a hold of the steering wheel you should be able to do it. Last guy that drove his car was short like you and had no problem.
No offer to adjust the seat for me. ha ha ha.

12:30pm the parking lot below was full of cars and obstacles. 12:40pm the parking lot was pretty much empty. A woman backing out almost ran me down not expecting a pedestrian there. So I got ready and stood out by my mailbox. The tree protected me from the down pour. He was on time but did not see me so I had to walk back to his car that speedily made it next to mine parked there. ugh.

I  put my fleece blanket down on the seat get in and struggle with the seat belt and off we go. I tried to encourage him to take the back roads to 6A and then a left onto rt 130. He would have none of that. Took back roads to Station Avenue and took Mid Cape from there. Taking the exit 5 for 149 then rt 28. I see Botellos and know we are almost there. It is 1:40pm. A bit of small talk then he decided to go in at 1:50pm just in case he has to fill out forms.

I say I will stay in the car. I know if I sit in a waiting room with someone I may fart just to get out of there.

I had my Kindle. Wished I had brought knitting and my Fire 7 just in case they had wifi.

So rain pelting the windshield. I read a bit, I feel cold. Glad I wore layers anyhow but wished I had worn my Winter jacket.

The hand brake was on and kept hitting my elbow. Or I it. LOL

People watched a bit. wow every shape size and color and attitude went in and out of that office. Some of it amusing. One guy talking to himself or had earphone and was on his phone was so huge I thought he would never fit through the doorway. Shorts on a nice shirt and sneakers. I sit there freezing my ass off.

women in and out. One showed up alone and stood there. A cigarette in hand. A man came up to her- he looked like an EMT and assured her this is where she had an appointment. She smoked this butt and it was long!  Short puffs little smoke. about less than half down and flicks it to the ground and stomps it out. what!?

Time drags on I check my phone clock seems like every 7 minutes. It is almost 3pm and I get optimistic that he will come down the ramp soon.  3:30 pm still no show. I begin to wonder if he is in some room waiting and forgotten by the staff.  I grab my bag and head to the door. Two women struggling down the hall to the door so I hold the door. They inch on out- the older of the two has a walker with tennis balls on the two back legs. I hustle on into the office look around and do not see him. I ask the clerk and she says he just went in the office. JUST? I said incredulously.. oh brother. So I head out to he car to read some more. But the walker and the other woman are standing there in the rain having navigation problems. I offer to help. We make some progress. I ask if she wants help getting to her car. She says yes but she will bring the car over- she points to a black car and tells me my "friend" is Chloe! I ask Chloe how the eye appointment went. she says "what? "  your eyes how was the appointment. She wipes her nose and says  "okay I guess"
I totally get that ! LOL

Slow process getting Chloe in the car she cannot hitch herself in and then back in the seat to make the seat belt fit. Seat belt latched and I help her get her arm in the right place and catch my long hair in everything. We laugh. I am thanked and I feel  like I did something and get back in the car in the driver's seat so I can practice directionals etc and adjust the seat and mirror. and read some more. The rain is really coming down now and it is 4pm. All of a sudden I see this youthful body racing down the ramp legs flying. It is him LOL so much for dodging raindrops.

I had the car in D for backing up. He noticed, otherwise I would have taken down that lovely birch tree. LOL no excuses here.

Take  a left out into traffic to get to Hyannis and Perry's. I have lost all interest about Jo Ann Fabrics and I am never asked. We get to Perry's and I turn around and park by the door for him to pick up and pay. He tells me to shut off the car. fucking no way. good grief. So 2 by 2 the extinguishers get in the back and I hope with a sudden stop they do not, all 4 of them, seek out the back of my head.

I take a right out of Perrys to shoot through Sears and then  a right out of the mall near the mattress place. I wanted to take rt 6a back. no no no way do that.  Good grief what happened to me taking the route I want on the way back. But I zip my lip. Take rt 28  ask if he wants to visit his mother's grave- no he was there when he came back from Florida. Thanks. Then to the Old North Main in Bass River South Yarmouth. Then shoot across and take the road that goes by the golf course. More construction. Then Upper County to 28 and back here. The puddle was still huge. I back into a spot here so he does not have to navigate with his eyes so much to get out. He asks if the puddle on the other side is big. yes at least 2 feet deep. But I think why the fuck do you think I came this way? ugh I gather my things and he says "Thank you I wish I could pay you in some way." (Well yeah you said that at the beginning of all this. I expected nothing and guess what! LOL)  then continues " But that fell through" Inside I am laughing. What fell through? Was all that talk about restaurants a hint and when I said I do not eat in restaurants that was out. Or when we talked about where I shop for food and he wondered why not Stop & Shop. And me saying because I do not like the store- that wasn't a good enough excuse.

This was exhausting.

I thought to myself , anyone not totally clueless knows a person, a woman especially, retired and living on social security alone and drives an 18 year old car- offer 5 bucks for crying out loud. even a dollar.

but then  again maybe he doesn't have it.

ugh
next time I will let the sarcasm rip.

pix from today