FAMILY-Sober Family

Last night late, I was browsing my tree and thought I would work on the Sobers and find death dates for those with blanks. First one was Alexander Jordan Sober. After a little bit of snooping and research I found him in a stack of papers I printed up back in 2002! I guess when I was new to this and had a printer with an endless supply of ink LOL Had wife Sarah Jane Gearhart, two daughters Martha no dates and Stella b 1869. Well I entered them in the tree- no information popped up for the wife Sarah nor for Martha but a death certificate for Stella came up that she died in 1962. wow over 90 years old! I had someone from a group on facebook with RAOGK post the death certificate . Of course it lists parents unknown! Informant Clyde Davis. Has her listed as buried in Mount Vernon Cemetery in Riverside Northumberland Pennsylvania. searched for other Sobers there and Alexander Jordan was there. died in 1876. More research and the wife Sarah claimed veteran pension. But in 1880 the two girls are in an orphan school Mount Joy Soldiers Orphans School in Mount Joy Pennsylvania. I reasoned that Sarah Jane must have died as well before 1880.

so here are the details from censuses and some images. I was able to flesh out Sarah Jane and her parents and brothers and sisters but they do not show up on findagrave.
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1880 census at Mount Joy
1880 Schedules of Defective,Dependent and Deliinquent classes.
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Annie L Satezahm     Other     F     15     Pennsylvania, United States
Amos Steele     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Heny Sourbeer     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
William Sourbeer     Other     M     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Hellen Siple     Other     F     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Henry M Shaar     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
William N Shaar     Other     M     11     Pennsylvania, United States
Grace F Sober     Other     F     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Eliza Schweitzer     Other     F     9     Pennsylvania, United States
Stella Sober     Other     F     11     Pennsylvania, United States
Martha G Sober     Other     F     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Robert D Smith     Other     M     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Annie Schweitzer     Other     F     6     Pennsylvania, United States
Laura E Sheaffer     Other     F     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Margaret A Shears     Other     F     8     Pennsylvania, United States
Sam W Sierfred     Other     M     13     Pennsylvania, United States
George H Sierfred     Other     M     9     Pennsylvania, United States
Willi C Thomas     Other     M     11     Pennsylvania, United States
Heister L Thomas     Other     M     10     Pennsylvania, United States
Charles H Thomas     Other     M     12     Pennsylvania, United States
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWFY-8BJ : 15 July 2017), Stella Sober in household of Annie L Satezahm, Mount Joy, Lancaster, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district ED 133, sheet 266B, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1141; FHL microfilm 1,255,141.

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United States Census, 1880
District     ED 133
Sheet Number and Letter     266B
Household ID     9824658
Affiliate Name     The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number     T9
Affiliate Film Number     1141
GS Film Number     1255141
Digital Folder Number     005162260
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1910 Martha and Stella with a servant, a boarder and 2 hired hands.
1910
Name     Stella Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1910
Event Place     Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     40
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Relationship to Head of Household     Sister
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Sister
Birth Year (Estimated)     1870
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     A
Sheet Number     3
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Martha Sober     Head     F     42     Pennsylvania
Stella Sober     Sister     F     40     Pennsylvania
Clara Nagle     Servant     F     45     Pennsylvania
Ross Nagle     Boarder     M     8     Pennsylvania
Charles Vaudling     Hired man     M     23     Pennsylvania
George Vaudling     Hired man     M     18     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MGHT-XS7 : accessed 30 June 2018), Stella Sober in household of Martha Sober, Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 103, sheet 3A, family 46, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 1337; FHL microfilm 1,375,350.

View the original document. The original may contain more information than was indexed.
United States Census, 1910
District     ED 103
Sheet Number and Letter     3A
Household ID     46
Affiliate Name     The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number     T624
Affiliate Film Number     1337
GS Film Number     1375350
Digital Folder Number     004973404
Image Number     00732

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1920 Stella at the bottom of a page alone no details.

1920
Stella at bottom of page not sure if Martha's name is faded at top or not
Name     Stella Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1920
Event Place     Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     50
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Can Read     Yes
Can Write     Yes
Relationship to Head of Household     Sister
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Sister
Birth Year (Estimated)     1870
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     B
Sheet Number     7
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFRK-FG3 : accessed 30 June 2018), Stella Sober, Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing ED 69, sheet 7B, line 98, family 33, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1559; FHL microfilm 1,821,559.


so I search for martha alone and get this
1920 census
Name     Martha Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1920
Event Place     Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     52
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Can Read     Yes
Can Write     Yes
Relationship to Head of Household     Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Head
Own or Rent     Rent
Birth Year (Estimated)     1868
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     A
Sheet Number     2
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1920," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MFRK-GDF : accessed 30 June 2018), Martha Sober, Harrisburg Ward 4, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing ED 69, sheet 2A, line 14, family 33, NARA microfilm publication T625 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1992), roll 1559; FHL microfilm 1,821,559.

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1930 I find them both together with a servant William Crabbe

1930

Stella B Sober
United States Census, 1930
Name     Stella B Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1930
Event Place     Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     61
Marital Status     Single
Race     White
Race (Original)     White
Relationship to Head of Household     Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Head
Birth Year (Estimated)     1869
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Father's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Mother's Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Sheet Letter     A
Sheet Number     12
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Stella B Sober     Head     F     61     Pennsylvania
Martha G Sober     Sister     F     62     Pennsylvania
William Crabb     Servant     M     62     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1930," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHSQ-631 : accessed 30 June 2018), Stella B Sober, Middle Paxton, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 78, sheet 12A, line 15, family 272, NARA microfilm publication T626 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2002), roll 2027; FHL microfilm 2,341,761.

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1940 they are together alone
1940
Name     Martha G Sober
Event Type     Census
Event Date     1940
Event Place     Middle Paxton Township, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States
Sex     Female
Age     70
Marital Status     Single
Race (Original)     White
Race     White
Relationship to Head of Household (Original)     Head
Relationship to Head of Household     Head
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
Birth Year (Estimated)     1870
Last Place of Residence     Same House
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Martha G Sober     Head     F     70     Pennsylvania
Stella B Sober     Sister     F     68     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1940," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ8P-C5J : accessed 30 June 2018), Martha G Sober, Middle Paxton Township, Dauphin, Pennsylvania, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 22-92, sheet 19B, line 44, family 389, Sixteenth Census of the United States, 1940, NARA digital publication T627. Records of the Bureau of the Census, 1790 - 2007, RG 29. Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 2012, roll 3484.

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so then I look for more details on the father Alexander Jordan Sober
Civil War veteran and Sarah J applying for pension in 1877

Civil War Alexander Jordan Sober
Name     Jordan Sober
Also Known As Name     Alexander J. Sober
Event Type     Military Service
Military Beginning Rank     Private
Military Final Rank     Corporal
Military Side     Union
State or Military Term     Pennsylvania
Military Unit     52nd Regiment, Pennsylvania Infantry
Military Company     D
Note     Original filed under Alexander J./Sober
Affiliate Film Number     115
Citing this Record

"United States Civil War Soldiers Index, 1861-1865," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FSS1-XYD : 4 December 2014), Jordan Sober, Corporal, Company D, 52nd Regiment, Pennsylvania Infantry, Union; citing NARA microfilm publication M554 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 115; FHL microfilm 882,450.


1877 alexander sarah widow file-

Alexander J Sober
United States General Index to Pension Files
Name     Alexander J Sober
Event Type     Pension
Event Date     1871
Beneficiary's Name     Sarah J Sober

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Finally find something with Sarah and her many family members
1850 census Originally she was listed with birth year 1850 so that stymied searches for a bit until I wised up!

1850
Sarah Gearhart
United States Census, 1850
Name     Sarah Gearhart
Event Type     Census
Event Year     1850
Event Place     Packer, Carbon, Pennsylvania, United States
Gender     Female
Age     2
Race     White
Birth Year (Estimated)     1848
Birthplace     Pennsylvania
House Number     27
Household
   
Role
   
Sex
   
Age
   
Birthplace
Joel Gearhart         M     34     Pennsylvania
Matilda Gearhart         F     30     Pennsylvania
Levi Gearhart         M     12     Pennsylvania
Harriet Gearhart         F     10     Pennsylvania
William Gearhart         M     9     Pennsylvania
Daniel Gearhart         M     7     Pennsylvania
James Gearhart         M     6     Pennsylvania
Martha Gearhart         F     5     Pennsylvania
Sarah Gearhart         F     2     Pennsylvania
Lewis Gearhart         M     1     Pennsylvania
Aaron Wetzell         M     25     Pennsylvania
Citing this Record

"United States Census, 1850," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M44Y-L73 : 12 April 2016), Sarah Gearhart in household of Joel Gearhart, Packer, Carbon, Pennsylvania, United States; citing family 27, NARA microfilm publication M432 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).

There are Wetzels in my tree as well wondering if Aaron is related.

that for some other day

here are the documents

Stella Sober Death certificate

Stella and Martha in Orphans School
1880

 no census for 1890 of course those were lost in a fire, but none for 1900 either.

1910

1920 Martha 513 N Second Street Harrisburg
line 14

Stella on another page at the bottom 1920 census

1930 census

1940 census

father's war pension

Martha's death certificate 1942

Two news items after Martha's death

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that's it for now no children born to Martha or Stella that I know of.